1 00:00:29,779 --> 00:00:21,830 [Music] 2 00:00:37,590 --> 00:00:33,569 hello I am Joshua p1 and this is Joshua 3 00:00:41,069 --> 00:00:37,600 p1 daily and this is my first podcast of 4 00:00:42,569 --> 00:00:41,079 the year 2020 I hope you are off to a 5 00:00:45,719 --> 00:00:42,579 great start 6 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:45,729 I am off and running getting all my 7 00:00:53,609 --> 00:00:50,890 ducks in a row for a year full of weird 8 00:00:56,100 --> 00:00:53,619 and wonderful and amazing projects 9 00:00:58,410 --> 00:00:56,110 including things I don't even know about 10 00:01:01,229 --> 00:00:58,420 yet I always have to leave a little 11 00:01:02,850 --> 00:01:01,239 space for the things that I don't even 12 00:01:05,969 --> 00:01:02,860 know we're gonna happen and that's what 13 00:01:08,940 --> 00:01:05,979 makes life exciting and bracing all that 14 00:01:12,510 --> 00:01:08,950 I could talk about whatever I want 15 00:01:15,749 --> 00:01:12,520 regarding this new year and in starting 16 00:01:19,859 --> 00:01:15,759 this new decade but honestly I must say 17 00:01:22,919 --> 00:01:19,869 that I have this brand new big-ass thick 18 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:22,929 book in my hands that is a very 19 00:01:31,469 --> 00:01:26,530 interesting manual if you will for the 20 00:01:35,099 --> 00:01:31,479 times and of course if you have listened 21 00:01:37,620 --> 00:01:35,109 to me for any significant period of time 22 00:01:44,999 --> 00:01:37,630 and you know I've been involved in media 23 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:45,009 now for probably close to 30 years you 24 00:01:49,770 --> 00:01:46,810 know that I have been friends for a long 25 00:01:54,779 --> 00:01:49,780 time good friends with a man named 26 00:01:59,219 --> 00:01:54,789 Timothy green Beckley who is called mr. 27 00:02:03,510 --> 00:01:59,229 UFO by some people he is a publisher and 28 00:02:06,749 --> 00:02:03,520 media mogul in New York City and he is 29 00:02:10,830 --> 00:02:06,759 one of those people who had the ambition 30 00:02:15,809 --> 00:02:10,840 and the energy to get out especially in 31 00:02:18,630 --> 00:02:15,819 sort of that crucial now we consider it 32 00:02:22,130 --> 00:02:18,640 kind of nostalgic heyday of ufology in 33 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:22,140 the 1960s going into the 70s and explore 34 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:25,330 these really obscure topics and 35 00:02:31,860 --> 00:02:28,090 interview people and document things for 36 00:02:32,790 --> 00:02:31,870 posterity that are priceless and so he 37 00:02:35,340 --> 00:02:32,800 has featured 38 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:35,350 and might work and a number of his 39 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:38,170 publications over the years and so he 40 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:40,480 contacted me recently and asked if he 41 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:43,090 could include some of my work on the 42 00:02:49,290 --> 00:02:45,970 Brown Mountain lights of Western North 43 00:02:51,630 --> 00:02:49,300 Carolina in a new book that he was 44 00:02:54,540 --> 00:02:51,640 publishing which is an anthology of a 45 00:02:57,450 --> 00:02:54,550 lot of information related to strange 46 00:03:00,600 --> 00:02:57,460 phenomena UFOs and I said absolutely so 47 00:03:03,180 --> 00:03:00,610 I sent him everything he needed and in 48 00:03:06,660 --> 00:03:03,190 fact that's one of the things that's so 49 00:03:11,310 --> 00:03:06,670 outstanding about Tim Beckley is that he 50 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:11,320 made that trip in the 1960s to brown 51 00:03:18,750 --> 00:03:14,530 Mountain when things were really rustic 52 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:18,760 and he had some incredible experiences 53 00:03:21,810 --> 00:03:20,170 and meetings there that I'll be telling 54 00:03:25,500 --> 00:03:21,820 you about 55 00:03:27,390 --> 00:03:25,510 more later in this podcast so we've 56 00:03:30,470 --> 00:03:27,400 always had at least that sort of Brown 57 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:30,480 Mountain lights connection there so 58 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:34,090 anyway a few days ago he sent me the 59 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:37,810 copy hot off the presses of this new 60 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:42,970 book and man let me say this thing is 61 00:03:52,650 --> 00:03:48,610 heavy his books for one thing he doesn't 62 00:03:55,290 --> 00:03:52,660 publish like little novel sized books he 63 00:03:58,620 --> 00:03:55,300 publishes books that are the size of 64 00:04:00,900 --> 00:03:58,630 like a large coloring book except 65 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:00,910 they're hundreds of pages long I mean 66 00:04:09,020 --> 00:04:04,090 this book is three hundred and sixty 67 00:04:12,780 --> 00:04:09,030 pages long packed with texts and 68 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:12,790 illustrations and you know photographs I 69 00:04:17,159 --> 00:04:15,310 mean just high quality stuff it this 70 00:04:20,430 --> 00:04:17,169 thing is actually heavy like this is 71 00:04:22,650 --> 00:04:20,440 it's it's too big to take on an airplane 72 00:04:25,260 --> 00:04:22,660 probably that's one bad thing I'll say 73 00:04:27,030 --> 00:04:25,270 about it but if he made it small enough 74 00:04:29,130 --> 00:04:27,040 to take on an airplane it would be like 75 00:04:32,070 --> 00:04:29,140 Warren piece it'd be one of those super 76 00:04:34,890 --> 00:04:32,080 thick books but now this is a big heavy 77 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:34,900 book and it's called Timothy Green 78 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:40,690 Beckley's UFOs DejaVu and I immediately 79 00:04:46,430 --> 00:04:44,770 thought what does that mean UFOs DejaVu 80 00:04:50,090 --> 00:04:46,440 by the way 81 00:04:55,070 --> 00:04:50,100 toss it out there French words right do 82 00:04:57,910 --> 00:04:55,080 you even know how to spell deja vu just 83 00:05:01,810 --> 00:04:57,920 I'm going to test yourself take a minute 84 00:05:07,580 --> 00:05:01,820 try to spell deja vu 85 00:05:09,850 --> 00:05:07,590 I'll give you a head it's two words all 86 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:09,860 right here's how you spell it 87 00:05:25,940 --> 00:05:22,290 de J a and then vu de JAV you and also 88 00:05:27,620 --> 00:05:25,950 the ID I never took French I took no H I 89 00:05:30,610 --> 00:05:27,630 took German when I was in school and 90 00:05:33,380 --> 00:05:30,620 then I learned decent amount of s 91 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:33,390 espanol Spanish when I was in Puerto 92 00:05:40,850 --> 00:05:39,330 Rico Puerto Rico but I never took French 93 00:05:43,130 --> 00:05:40,860 so I don't know what you call these 94 00:05:46,430 --> 00:05:43,140 little accent marks over the E and the a 95 00:05:48,490 --> 00:05:46,440 and dejavu but it's called UFOs DejaVu 96 00:05:52,130 --> 00:05:48,500 and I wondered what does he mean by that 97 00:05:53,780 --> 00:05:52,140 so my very first instinct was well maybe 98 00:05:57,250 --> 00:05:53,790 what he's saying is well he's been 99 00:06:02,150 --> 00:05:57,260 around doing this kind of stuff so long 100 00:06:04,280 --> 00:06:02,160 that he's just seeing patterns and where 101 00:06:06,260 --> 00:06:04,290 we're going in circles which almost 102 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:06,270 makes it seem like well maybe this is 103 00:06:11,060 --> 00:06:09,090 boring to him because he's just seeing 104 00:06:14,900 --> 00:06:11,070 us going in the same but actually that's 105 00:06:16,820 --> 00:06:14,910 not what he means at all turns out he's 106 00:06:20,900 --> 00:06:16,830 talking about something that is much 107 00:06:23,420 --> 00:06:20,910 more specific and technical in this book 108 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:23,430 and that was a surprise to me and I'm 109 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:26,250 gonna explain it in a minute because the 110 00:06:35,140 --> 00:06:30,300 the subtitle to this book again it's 111 00:06:40,610 --> 00:06:35,150 called UFOs deja vu subtitle skinwalkers 112 00:06:46,220 --> 00:06:40,620 shapeshifters alien portals and vortexes 113 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:46,230 to other dimensions and then there is a 114 00:06:55,700 --> 00:06:50,010 big red sunburst that says alien 115 00:07:04,070 --> 00:06:58,640 by Timothy green Beckley and Shawn 116 00:07:08,330 --> 00:07:04,080 Castile with Maria D'Andrea Diane 117 00:07:12,279 --> 00:07:08,340 Tessman Brent rains Tim Schwartz Tom 118 00:07:16,570 --> 00:07:12,289 dango Linda Bradshaw William Hamilton 119 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:16,580 Erica Luc's David partridge Nick Redfern 120 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:21,330 Chris O'Brien Scott Corrales dr. Leo 121 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:25,770 sprinkle Joshua P Warren Albert Ezra 122 00:07:38,089 --> 00:07:31,610 Salas + + exclusive interviews with 123 00:07:40,550 --> 00:07:38,099 george knapp and jeremy Korbel my god if 124 00:07:43,790 --> 00:07:40,560 you look at the back of this thing and 125 00:07:45,589 --> 00:07:43,800 by the way I know you're thinking ok 126 00:07:50,749 --> 00:07:45,599 Josh are you selling this book no I'm 127 00:07:52,610 --> 00:07:50,759 not Tim asked me if he could put my work 128 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:52,620 in here and I said yeah and I sent it to 129 00:07:57,350 --> 00:07:54,330 him and it's in there where I'm not 130 00:07:59,060 --> 00:07:57,360 making a penny off of this book I'm just 131 00:08:01,129 --> 00:07:59,070 telling you about it because it's so 132 00:08:04,670 --> 00:08:01,139 amazing this is everything this guy 133 00:08:06,620 --> 00:08:04,680 publishes is is so unique there's 134 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:06,630 nothing else like this in the whole 135 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:08,610 publishing world and it's like you know 136 00:08:12,350 --> 00:08:10,530 I don't mean to be morbid here but I'm 137 00:08:14,990 --> 00:08:12,360 just gonna toss it out there I know Tim 138 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:15,000 want mine when Timothy green Beckley 139 00:08:22,790 --> 00:08:18,960 dies that's gonna be like the end of an 140 00:08:26,089 --> 00:08:22,800 era because only he publishes stuff that 141 00:08:32,149 --> 00:08:26,099 with this level of depth and quality and 142 00:08:34,449 --> 00:08:32,159 so that's gonna be a sad day for us when 143 00:08:37,070 --> 00:08:34,459 he passes on to another dimension 144 00:08:39,110 --> 00:08:37,080 because even though I'm sure he'll be 145 00:08:42,949 --> 00:08:39,120 looking forward to it if God knows what 146 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:42,959 new adventures he'll have he there's 147 00:08:48,140 --> 00:08:45,120 nobody like him who publishes this kind 148 00:08:49,579 --> 00:08:48,150 of material the way he does so that's 149 00:08:51,019 --> 00:08:49,589 why I'm telling you about it because you 150 00:08:52,970 --> 00:08:51,029 listen to this podcast and you're the 151 00:08:57,139 --> 00:08:52,980 type of person who should should find 152 00:08:59,600 --> 00:08:57,149 this mind blowing all this stuff on the 153 00:09:02,170 --> 00:08:59,610 back it says not all UFOs are 154 00:09:06,319 --> 00:09:02,180 nuts-and-bolts craft from other planets 155 00:09:08,700 --> 00:09:06,329 here is definitive proof that many are 156 00:09:11,070 --> 00:09:08,710 para physical and 157 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:11,080 nature isn't that great para physical in 158 00:09:19,890 --> 00:09:17,170 nature our UFOs piloted by beings from a 159 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:19,900 parallel universe or another dimension 160 00:09:25,530 --> 00:09:22,930 is it possible for these ultra 161 00:09:28,380 --> 00:09:25,540 terrestrials to travel across time and 162 00:09:31,410 --> 00:09:28,390 space by entering our world and exiting 163 00:09:35,550 --> 00:09:31,420 again through portals vortexes and 164 00:09:37,710 --> 00:09:35,560 stargates is there a harmonious 165 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:37,720 relationship between Bigfoot and other 166 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:42,930 cryptids and flying saucers can UFOs 167 00:09:51,810 --> 00:09:48,240 transport the deceased to a dead zone 168 00:09:56,370 --> 00:09:51,820 the deja vu factor exposed what causes 169 00:09:58,590 --> 00:09:56,380 these Starcraft to be seen repeatedly at 170 00:10:00,210 --> 00:09:58,600 certain locations okay 171 00:10:03,420 --> 00:10:00,220 now you see what he's talking about deja 172 00:10:05,910 --> 00:10:03,430 vu is the practice of Native American 173 00:10:08,820 --> 00:10:05,920 black magic responsible for the bizarre 174 00:10:11,820 --> 00:10:08,830 phenomena taking place on skinwalker 175 00:10:14,310 --> 00:10:11,830 ranch what is behind the appearance of 176 00:10:16,260 --> 00:10:14,320 black helicopters the mutilation of 177 00:10:20,100 --> 00:10:16,270 animals and the menacing men and black 178 00:10:22,410 --> 00:10:20,110 is there photographic proof the strange 179 00:10:26,340 --> 00:10:22,420 creatures exist all around us but are 180 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:26,350 invisible to the naked eye whoo whoo 181 00:10:31,710 --> 00:10:30,130 whoo see yes yes there is as a matter of 182 00:10:33,150 --> 00:10:31,720 fact that's something that I've been 183 00:10:35,940 --> 00:10:33,160 working on you know some little 184 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:35,950 invisibility projects anyway it goes on 185 00:10:41,130 --> 00:10:39,010 to say here join over a dozen of the 186 00:10:43,530 --> 00:10:41,140 world's leading UFO researchers and 187 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:43,540 parapsychologist as they break out of 188 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:48,370 the matrix to explore and expose a truly 189 00:10:56,060 --> 00:10:52,330 freakish universe that we are only 190 00:10:59,910 --> 00:10:56,070 beginning to comprehend exists at all 191 00:11:02,340 --> 00:10:59,920 here is irrefutable proof that we are 192 00:11:05,100 --> 00:11:02,350 surrounded by unknown interacting 193 00:11:08,670 --> 00:11:05,110 dimensions which we can fall through and 194 00:11:11,310 --> 00:11:08,680 disappear into forever we also must 195 00:11:13,710 --> 00:11:11,320 learn to confront this dark unknown and 196 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:13,720 somehow manage to deal with the 197 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:17,290 sometimes terrifying situations even as 198 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:19,330 the governments of the world work to 199 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:21,110 keep us uninformed 200 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:29,640 boy 201 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:36,050 you know what I'm gonna read you some of 202 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:41,450 this and cuz you know again Tim and I 203 00:11:51,070 --> 00:11:45,110 are good friends and he allows me to 204 00:11:53,980 --> 00:11:51,080 read portions of his stuff to you and 205 00:11:57,150 --> 00:11:53,990 why wouldn't he I mean you know he he 206 00:12:01,110 --> 00:11:57,160 loves just getting the word out and 207 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:01,120 everything he presents is so good that 208 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:04,610 you're gonna buy it as a matter of fact 209 00:12:10,930 --> 00:12:06,610 I'll put up a link to this book on the 210 00:12:17,310 --> 00:12:10,940 amazon.com website let's see how much is 211 00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:17,320 this $21.95 to get this actual big-ass 212 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:20,750 thick hard it's not hard back but it's 213 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:25,970 it's a big thick like well printed you 214 00:12:29,470 --> 00:12:27,650 almost feel like you have a hardback 215 00:12:36,670 --> 00:12:29,480 book in your hands let's put that way or 216 00:12:39,660 --> 00:12:36,680 you can get it on Kindle for $9.99 so I 217 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:39,670 want to just read to you some of this I 218 00:12:51,550 --> 00:12:43,250 think it's a great way to start off 2020 219 00:12:53,410 --> 00:12:51,560 it is just giving you some of my my 220 00:12:57,220 --> 00:12:53,420 thoughts on the things that he's writing 221 00:13:05,080 --> 00:12:57,230 about because Timothy green Beckley he's 222 00:13:09,550 --> 00:13:05,090 seen it all he he has a approach to this 223 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:09,560 that nobody else has like I I don't know 224 00:13:16,090 --> 00:13:12,170 that anybody has experienced enough and 225 00:13:18,490 --> 00:13:16,100 is dug enough and probably has been 226 00:13:26,730 --> 00:13:18,500 reckless enough to go out and do some 227 00:13:29,830 --> 00:13:26,740 you know some exploration as he has 228 00:13:31,930 --> 00:13:29,840 there may be scientists out there who 229 00:13:32,340 --> 00:13:31,940 know a bit or a piece of this or that of 230 00:13:36,510 --> 00:13:32,350 the other 231 00:13:44,390 --> 00:13:36,520 but here is his introduction to UFOs 232 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:44,400 deja vu it's deja vu over and over again 233 00:13:54,420 --> 00:13:48,850 the fearless ravings of Timothy green 234 00:13:55,770 --> 00:13:54,430 Beckley and Maria de Andrea and I don't 235 00:14:00,180 --> 00:13:55,780 even know if I'm saying her name 236 00:14:01,530 --> 00:14:00,190 correctly but I've seen it in print I've 237 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:01,540 always seen it in print 238 00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:04,330 Maria de Andrea and so basically in this 239 00:14:11,130 --> 00:14:08,880 introduction Tim he writes most of it 240 00:14:14,550 --> 00:14:11,140 well actually I guess they kind of split 241 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:14,560 it up 50/50 so okay so here's what Tim 242 00:14:26,190 --> 00:14:21,330 writes quote it's deja vu all over again 243 00:14:28,950 --> 00:14:26,200 ink whoa was a famous yogi ism 244 00:14:32,310 --> 00:14:28,960 attributed to Yankee Baseball Hall of 245 00:14:35,340 --> 00:14:32,320 Fame catcher Yogi Berra who explained 246 00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:35,350 that this expression originated when he 247 00:14:40,020 --> 00:14:37,720 witnessed Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris 248 00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:40,030 repeatedly hitting back-to-back home 249 00:14:48,780 --> 00:14:43,680 runs during the Yankees seasons of the 250 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:48,790 1960's in less colorful lingo deja vu 251 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:50,170 means that one has lived through a 252 00:14:55,650 --> 00:14:53,410 situation before whether it is in 253 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:55,660 reference to walking down the street you 254 00:15:00,770 --> 00:14:57,970 know you have never walked down 255 00:15:04,820 --> 00:15:00,780 previously but are doing it again or 256 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:04,830 sighting a UFO and pretty much the same 257 00:15:13,140 --> 00:15:09,850 local over and over and over as if it is 258 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:13,150 wedged into the same spot in space to 259 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:16,330 see how deja vu might apply 260 00:15:22,950 --> 00:15:19,090 I would like to reference Bill Murray in 261 00:15:25,620 --> 00:15:22,960 Groundhog Day and Tom Cruise who plays a 262 00:15:28,170 --> 00:15:25,630 soldier in a fierce battle against 263 00:15:31,860 --> 00:15:28,180 aliens who finds himself thrown into a 264 00:15:34,950 --> 00:15:31,870 time loop in which he relives the same 265 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:34,960 brutal fight and his death over and over 266 00:15:44,139 --> 00:15:42,900 he's talking there about a movie called 267 00:15:48,009 --> 00:15:44,149 edge of tomorrow 268 00:15:51,100 --> 00:15:48,019 and I've never seen that movie anyway 269 00:15:53,860 --> 00:15:51,110 Tim goes on to say and while space does 270 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:53,870 not permit us to reveal the location of 271 00:15:59,049 --> 00:15:55,490 the hundreds of spots where you might 272 00:16:01,809 --> 00:15:59,059 train your eyes on the sky and observe 273 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:01,819 something very unusual hovering in the 274 00:16:08,230 --> 00:16:05,930 clouds and perhaps lowering itself to 275 00:16:10,449 --> 00:16:08,240 the ground and interacting with you or 276 00:16:14,110 --> 00:16:10,459 your surroundings in various manners 277 00:16:17,319 --> 00:16:14,120 both positively and negatively depending 278 00:16:21,429 --> 00:16:17,329 on the situation and your proximity to a 279 00:16:23,889 --> 00:16:21,439 particular portal vortex or gateway as 280 00:16:26,939 --> 00:16:23,899 far as I'm concerned you may use the 281 00:16:33,489 --> 00:16:30,340 despite variances which we shall go into 282 00:16:38,769 --> 00:16:33,499 as we progress in our understanding of 283 00:16:44,110 --> 00:16:38,779 UFOs deja vu in general in French it 284 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:44,120 means seen before that's what deja vu 285 00:16:52,590 --> 00:16:49,490 means seen before but let it be known 286 00:16:54,819 --> 00:16:52,600 that some portals are permanent other 287 00:16:59,919 --> 00:16:54,829 vortexes are temporary 288 00:17:02,290 --> 00:16:59,929 while some gateways come and go I warn 289 00:17:05,949 --> 00:17:02,300 you that we are about to embark on a 290 00:17:08,799 --> 00:17:05,959 strange trip it will be a lengthy voyage 291 00:17:11,679 --> 00:17:08,809 through hyperspace to other dimensions 292 00:17:14,740 --> 00:17:11,689 and parallel universes there are some 293 00:17:18,309 --> 00:17:14,750 pretty weird to our current trend of 294 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:18,319 thinking scenes events and beings out 295 00:17:25,059 --> 00:17:22,010 there wherever there might be referring 296 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:25,069 to but be fearless is we have a mighty 297 00:17:30,250 --> 00:17:27,890 crew at our books helm to transport you 298 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:30,260 to places you have never been before as 299 00:17:36,190 --> 00:17:33,610 we go along they shall be identified 300 00:17:38,850 --> 00:17:36,200 most of these Trekkie ins I have 301 00:17:41,169 --> 00:17:38,860 ventured out into the galaxy with before 302 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:41,179 one of the things that we have already 303 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:43,610 predetermined fairly early is that we 304 00:17:48,990 --> 00:17:46,610 are not dealing with quote ordinary nuts 305 00:17:52,090 --> 00:17:49,000 and bolts craft from other planets 306 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:52,100 there is something decisively paranormal 307 00:17:56,660 --> 00:17:55,010 about UFOs that makes the topic much 308 00:18:00,640 --> 00:17:56,670 more complex 309 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:00,650 and more difficult to prove a theory 310 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:05,090 it's advanced quantum physics for the 311 00:18:12,230 --> 00:18:08,910 general public it circumvents normalcy 312 00:18:16,250 --> 00:18:12,240 and so you can call into play the 313 00:18:21,230 --> 00:18:16,260 supernatural like it or not and as 314 00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:21,240 you'll see by examining pom dongho's 19 315 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:23,760 the haunting point synopses of the 316 00:18:31,010 --> 00:18:27,210 unknown it's a chapter in this book I 317 00:18:34,460 --> 00:18:31,020 guess and Brett rains testimonial on 318 00:18:43,090 --> 00:18:34,470 UFOs and their relationship to the 319 00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:46,390 there's a subheading here it says enter 320 00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:50,340 Maria de Andrea and again I don't know 321 00:18:56,420 --> 00:18:54,840 if I'm saying her name right or not tim 322 00:18:59,690 --> 00:18:56,430 says over the years I've been known to 323 00:19:02,060 --> 00:18:59,700 consult our in-house psychic and shaman 324 00:19:07,310 --> 00:19:02,070 Maria de Andrea on the relationship 325 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:07,320 between this world and all others Maria 326 00:19:12,170 --> 00:19:10,410 is usually spot-on with her thoughts and 327 00:19:14,900 --> 00:19:12,180 opinions when it comes to wormholes 328 00:19:17,570 --> 00:19:14,910 portals and time slips although she is 329 00:19:22,550 --> 00:19:17,580 not that connected with the UFO 330 00:19:27,290 --> 00:19:22,560 phenomena her thing in quotations being 331 00:19:30,290 --> 00:19:27,300 more metaphysical when I told Maria UFO 332 00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:30,300 deja vu was in the works and I was 333 00:19:36,380 --> 00:19:32,400 gathering thoughts and conjecture on 334 00:19:39,020 --> 00:19:36,390 portals vortexes and stargates well she 335 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:39,030 chimed right in and sent me our own 336 00:19:47,410 --> 00:19:42,240 thinking on the subject as set forth 337 00:19:49,850 --> 00:19:47,420 here in here is where Maria the Andrea 338 00:19:53,420 --> 00:19:49,860 takes over the introduction here's what 339 00:19:53,430 --> 00:19:58,820 why don't we just call them doorways 340 00:20:05,820 --> 00:20:01,830 shamans and psychics use vortexes and 341 00:20:09,690 --> 00:20:05,830 portals all the time it's more or less 342 00:20:11,820 --> 00:20:09,700 how we get around going through them and 343 00:20:14,010 --> 00:20:11,830 exiting on the other side is our method 344 00:20:17,460 --> 00:20:14,020 for seeing what's going on within these 345 00:20:23,340 --> 00:20:17,470 other realms they connect shamans and 346 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:23,350 Magi to other realms a vortex consists 347 00:20:30,510 --> 00:20:26,050 mainly of a flow with two main 348 00:20:34,850 --> 00:20:30,520 components rapid velocity mainly 349 00:20:37,410 --> 00:20:34,860 greatest at its center and circulation 350 00:20:40,010 --> 00:20:37,420 these in the paranormal field can be 351 00:20:44,250 --> 00:20:40,020 looked upon as carrying high positive 352 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:44,260 psychic energy as in some locations 353 00:20:49,740 --> 00:20:46,930 around the earth these types of vortexes 354 00:20:52,290 --> 00:20:49,750 are mainly found on ley lines or energy 355 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:52,300 grids where a lot of UFO sightings and 356 00:20:57,930 --> 00:20:55,930 encounters take place when we are 357 00:21:00,300 --> 00:20:57,940 gathering energy to heighten our 358 00:21:03,420 --> 00:21:00,310 abilities which enable us to go 359 00:21:06,660 --> 00:21:03,430 dimension-hopping it's a method a lot of 360 00:21:09,450 --> 00:21:06,670 psychics have gravitated toward passed 361 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:09,460 down from generation to generation I 362 00:21:14,610 --> 00:21:12,250 sometimes feel drained if I spend too 363 00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:14,620 much time here in active portal is we're 364 00:21:20,430 --> 00:21:17,280 not meant to be on such a high 365 00:21:22,980 --> 00:21:20,440 vibrational or alpha brainwave level 366 00:21:26,250 --> 00:21:22,990 that is psychic intuitive level for too 367 00:21:28,890 --> 00:21:26,260 long a time limit your time there were 368 00:21:32,790 --> 00:21:28,900 all sorts of crazy things may begin to 369 00:21:35,580 --> 00:21:32,800 transpire and you may feel anxieties and 370 00:21:41,690 --> 00:21:35,590 have to get yourself back to quote 371 00:21:44,550 --> 00:21:41,700 normal through some tranquil meditation 372 00:21:47,340 --> 00:21:44,560 now if you are visiting a portal or 373 00:21:50,340 --> 00:21:47,350 vortex you should take care to utilize 374 00:21:52,500 --> 00:21:50,350 psychic protection remember you are 375 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:52,510 going to enter and interact with 376 00:21:58,410 --> 00:21:55,690 different realms this is a doorway 377 00:22:01,230 --> 00:21:58,420 between our world and these parallel 378 00:22:04,279 --> 00:22:01,240 dimensions distant places on our home 379 00:22:07,549 --> 00:22:04,289 planet and through time and space 380 00:22:09,879 --> 00:22:07,559 some could be hazardous to your health 381 00:22:12,830 --> 00:22:09,889 and well-being 382 00:22:13,970 --> 00:22:12,840 sometimes we visit portals of our own 383 00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:13,980 free will 384 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:16,110 other times they just open up without 385 00:22:23,149 --> 00:22:19,730 warning and sometimes we can build them 386 00:22:25,789 --> 00:22:23,159 on one of these occasions I was out 387 00:22:29,060 --> 00:22:25,799 hiking by myself up in the mountains and 388 00:22:32,060 --> 00:22:29,070 Pennsylvania as I walk through the woods 389 00:22:35,269 --> 00:22:32,070 I heard a sound seemed like a soft wind 390 00:22:40,279 --> 00:22:35,279 and part of the landscape in front of me 391 00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:40,289 disappeared and stars and planets became 392 00:22:49,930 --> 00:22:44,720 visible as if I were floating in space 393 00:22:55,279 --> 00:22:49,940 as I looked I saw what seemed to be two 394 00:22:59,570 --> 00:22:55,289 round disks flying erratically towards 395 00:23:01,730 --> 00:22:59,580 some destination I knew there were 396 00:23:05,509 --> 00:23:01,740 beings inside these vessels and I wanted 397 00:23:08,299 --> 00:23:05,519 to see more as I walked toward the 398 00:23:10,970 --> 00:23:08,309 portal I had a feeling of being stopped 399 00:23:13,810 --> 00:23:10,980 as I got closer it felt like I was 400 00:23:17,989 --> 00:23:13,820 trying to walk forward but was only 401 00:23:20,869 --> 00:23:17,999 pushing into an etheric substance that 402 00:23:25,639 --> 00:23:20,879 felt like jello and I wasn't going 403 00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:25,649 anywhere it was very frustrating because 404 00:23:31,730 --> 00:23:28,320 I'm a curious and active person as most 405 00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:31,740 sages and shaman are I automatically put 406 00:23:35,989 --> 00:23:33,840 up my psychic shield as a defense 407 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:35,999 mechanism so that nothing could harm me 408 00:23:41,450 --> 00:23:39,090 and as I looked on I noticed the quote 409 00:23:43,820 --> 00:23:41,460 ships were changing colors as they 410 00:23:46,669 --> 00:23:43,830 rotated I didn't hear any sounds 411 00:23:49,159 --> 00:23:46,679 emanating from them nor did I see beings 412 00:23:51,769 --> 00:23:49,169 inside but I had an overwhelming feeling 413 00:23:54,259 --> 00:23:51,779 they were positive and meant no harm I 414 00:23:59,950 --> 00:23:54,269 was lucky to have such a positive 415 00:24:02,930 --> 00:23:59,960 experience warning not everyone does as 416 00:24:05,180 --> 00:24:02,940 I was gazing upon the setting before me 417 00:24:08,210 --> 00:24:05,190 and trying to gather more details about 418 00:24:10,369 --> 00:24:08,220 the ship and its occupants the portal 419 00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:10,379 closed and I found myself back in the 420 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:13,950 woods again to this day I wonder what 421 00:24:19,169 --> 00:24:15,610 sort of beings were in the gray 422 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:19,179 left I've opened doorways before and 423 00:24:24,510 --> 00:24:21,370 since but I couldn't get to the same 424 00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:24,520 place again I think sometimes the 425 00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:27,520 universe just messes with you and they 426 00:24:32,490 --> 00:24:29,080 should have given me the proper 427 00:24:34,590 --> 00:24:32,500 coordinates right well do learn from 428 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:34,600 your journey because the Vision Quest is 429 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:36,090 what this is all about 430 00:24:43,230 --> 00:24:39,730 remember these vortexes and portals have 431 00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:43,240 been known and utilized in the spiritual 432 00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:47,440 fields for centuries but may be new to 433 00:24:54,750 --> 00:24:51,910 the average UFO researcher it feels good 434 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:54,760 to know that science is just starting to 435 00:24:59,760 --> 00:24:56,890 delve into such matters as parallel 436 00:25:03,090 --> 00:24:59,770 dimensions but we must learn the proper 437 00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:03,100 ways to deal with them so that we don't 438 00:25:11,370 --> 00:25:07,840 get burned some ultra terrestrials as 439 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:11,380 Tim calls them mean us no harm others 440 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:13,330 can be quite negative while others are 441 00:25:18,270 --> 00:25:15,370 just blundering into our realm without 442 00:25:22,650 --> 00:25:18,280 knowing what they're doing there is 443 00:25:25,380 --> 00:25:22,660 after all a quote trickster element to 444 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:25,390 much of this as just about every Native 445 00:25:34,169 --> 00:25:28,809 American can tell you if they're willing 446 00:25:37,580 --> 00:25:34,179 to discuss the subject and then Tim 447 00:25:40,350 --> 00:25:37,590 comes back in in his voice and he says 448 00:25:42,750 --> 00:25:40,360 Maria's concluding thoughts about Native 449 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:42,760 Americans should be underscored because 450 00:25:51,299 --> 00:25:47,890 a lot of the UFO deja vu phenomena takes 451 00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:51,309 place on or near sacred Indian ground 452 00:25:58,159 --> 00:25:55,360 throughout the South West though it is 453 00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:58,169 not limited to this part of the country 454 00:26:04,980 --> 00:26:00,640 exclusively or for that matter the rest 455 00:26:09,060 --> 00:26:04,990 of the world now now it is time to plot 456 00:26:13,380 --> 00:26:09,070 our course and set sail he gives his 457 00:26:17,669 --> 00:26:13,390 email address and conspiracy journal 458 00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:17,679 comm pretty interesting introduction 459 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:22,480 wouldn't you say so I told you he 460 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:26,770 contacted me to contribute to this book 461 00:26:34,299 --> 00:26:28,130 because of my work 462 00:26:36,190 --> 00:26:34,309 on the Brown Mountain lights and my one 463 00:26:37,620 --> 00:26:36,200 sentence if you for some reason have 464 00:26:40,090 --> 00:26:37,630 never heard of the Brown Mountain lights 465 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:40,100 my one sentence to describe this 466 00:26:45,370 --> 00:26:42,410 phenomenon to you after describing it 467 00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:45,380 over and over for 27 years or whatever 468 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:49,520 is that Brown Mountain is a low-lying 469 00:26:55,060 --> 00:26:52,490 Ridge in the middle of the Pisgah 470 00:26:59,320 --> 00:26:55,070 National Forest in Western North 471 00:27:02,710 --> 00:26:59,330 Carolina and for hundreds of years 472 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:02,720 people have seen multicolored balls of 473 00:27:09,610 --> 00:27:06,530 light floating on or around this Ridge 474 00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:09,620 at night and no one can explain what 475 00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:12,590 they are ok that's what the Brown 476 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:13,760 Mountain lights are and they've been 477 00:27:21,460 --> 00:27:15,890 studied by all kinds of scientists and 478 00:27:23,649 --> 00:27:21,470 meta physicians but what's really cool 479 00:27:26,529 --> 00:27:23,659 and this is for those of you who listen 480 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:26,539 to this podcast who were who really know 481 00:27:32,649 --> 00:27:28,730 about this who know about the Brown 482 00:27:35,919 --> 00:27:32,659 Mountain lore and everything one of the 483 00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:35,929 weirdest characters who ever went there 484 00:27:41,380 --> 00:27:39,200 - who is who was involved in the Brown 485 00:27:49,270 --> 00:27:41,390 Mountain scene was a guy named Ralph 486 00:27:51,330 --> 00:27:49,280 lael and Ralph lil he had a little shop 487 00:27:56,169 --> 00:27:51,340 and museum near Brown Mountain in the 488 00:27:57,850 --> 00:27:56,179 1960s and he claimed that he had I don't 489 00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:57,860 know if you'd call it been abducted by 490 00:28:04,360 --> 00:27:59,360 aliens because he pretty much 491 00:28:07,870 --> 00:28:04,370 volunteered to go but he he traveled 492 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:07,880 with aliens he went inside the mountain 493 00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:10,850 and he even had a little mummified body 494 00:28:21,340 --> 00:28:13,039 that he claimed was the mummified body 495 00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:21,350 of an alien that he would show you for a 496 00:28:28,390 --> 00:28:24,559 couple of bucks and then one day Ralph 497 00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:28,400 li'l died and I don't know what happened 498 00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:30,289 to him and somebody bulldozed a shop 499 00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:33,710 down and the alien mummy disappeared and 500 00:28:39,820 --> 00:28:36,559 that was the end of that and one of the 501 00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:39,830 few people who was a UFO researcher who 502 00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:41,200 got to actually meet 503 00:28:50,490 --> 00:28:44,799 well back in the 1960s was Timothy Green 504 00:28:52,980 --> 00:28:50,500 Beckley and so he actually has this 505 00:28:58,889 --> 00:28:52,990 chapter he wrote before my chapter on 506 00:29:01,110 --> 00:28:58,899 Brown Mountain it's chapter 27 it's it's 507 00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:01,120 called giant crystals and the mummified 508 00:29:08,370 --> 00:29:05,710 little man and he starts off by writing 509 00:29:11,879 --> 00:29:08,380 I know of at least one UFO vantage point 510 00:29:15,180 --> 00:29:11,889 just above excuse me 511 00:29:18,029 --> 00:29:15,190 one UFO vantage point just about anyone 512 00:29:19,950 --> 00:29:18,039 with a car can travel to and there is a 513 00:29:22,159 --> 00:29:19,960 good chance you will probably see 514 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:22,169 something pretty damn strange as 515 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:24,970 thousands of others have over a period 516 00:29:30,090 --> 00:29:27,970 of many many years this gateway to a 517 00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:30,100 parallel dimension is in North Carolina 518 00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:32,169 it's in the middle of the brown mountain 519 00:29:37,620 --> 00:29:34,260 region and you can stay at the nearby 520 00:29:41,070 --> 00:29:37,630 Holiday Inn and Morganton about 15 miles 521 00:29:44,850 --> 00:29:41,080 north of an actual highway marker which 522 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:44,860 has been posted by the state it provides 523 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:47,049 any visitor with the best view to look 524 00:29:52,889 --> 00:29:49,450 and see these mysterious lights that bob 525 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:52,899 and weave across the sky finally 526 00:29:58,860 --> 00:29:54,370 settling down below the ground 527 00:30:02,220 --> 00:29:58,870 disappearing into the crevices I went 528 00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:02,230 there circa late 60s with the posthumous 529 00:30:08,610 --> 00:30:05,049 Jim Mosely the quote trickster of 530 00:30:12,899 --> 00:30:08,620 ufology and the always very jolly Allen 531 00:30:14,970 --> 00:30:12,909 Greenfield over Christmas week I say 532 00:30:19,399 --> 00:30:14,980 that because we were stuck in a rather 533 00:30:22,049 --> 00:30:19,409 low end cabin as I recall quote singing 534 00:30:24,090 --> 00:30:22,059 Christmas carols which is remarkable 535 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:24,100 because Jim was tone-deaf 536 00:30:29,399 --> 00:30:27,250 Allen is Jewish and to my way of 537 00:30:31,620 --> 00:30:29,409 thinking it's not rock and roll enough 538 00:30:35,129 --> 00:30:31,630 unless Elvis is in the room and maybe 539 00:30:36,690 --> 00:30:35,139 his spirit was okay so this gives you an 540 00:30:40,529 --> 00:30:36,700 idea of the adventure of these fellows 541 00:30:43,889 --> 00:30:40,539 wrong but then he goes on to to talk 542 00:30:47,700 --> 00:30:43,899 about what it was like to meet Ralph 543 00:30:50,909 --> 00:30:47,710 well and this is McGann this is maybe a 544 00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:50,919 little bit too in-depth or too geeky but 545 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:53,120 for those of you who have followed 546 00:30:58,030 --> 00:30:55,610 me and my work all these years and and 547 00:31:00,250 --> 00:30:58,040 the Brown Mountain story I think this is 548 00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:00,260 pretty damn interesting you'll you know 549 00:31:07,390 --> 00:31:03,200 you'll enjoy hearing what it was like to 550 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:07,400 actually to have an account of what it 551 00:31:14,790 --> 00:31:08,930 was like to meet Ralph 552 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:14,800 lael last name spelled l AE L he is 553 00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:17,210 historically speaking perhaps the 554 00:31:22,030 --> 00:31:20,510 weirdest and most mysterious human 555 00:31:24,970 --> 00:31:22,040 associated with the Brown Mountain 556 00:31:29,650 --> 00:31:24,980 lights phenomenon so here's what Tim 557 00:31:31,690 --> 00:31:29,660 writes about that another old time 558 00:31:34,660 --> 00:31:31,700 resident of the Brown Mountain area is 559 00:31:36,460 --> 00:31:34,670 Ralph lil who was born in Alexander 560 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:36,470 County now 561 00:31:47,710 --> 00:31:39,170 now of course I'm gonna pause here Tim 562 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:47,720 says is Ralph lil so this shows you now 563 00:31:53,650 --> 00:31:51,410 Ralph allele has been dead I think he 564 00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:53,660 probably died and well probably around 565 00:31:59,830 --> 00:31:56,000 the time shortly after Tim met him in 566 00:32:04,630 --> 00:31:59,840 the late 60s or early 70s so some of 567 00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:04,640 this you know his is Tim recounting his 568 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:08,000 experience all those years ago when this 569 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:10,010 was fresh on his mind you know he's not 570 00:32:16,270 --> 00:32:13,130 looking back on this in retrospect he's 571 00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:16,280 writing this when he presumes Raphael is 572 00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:17,710 still alive 573 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:20,510 so I'll start again another old time 574 00:32:25,870 --> 00:32:22,370 resident of the Brown Mountain area is 575 00:32:30,570 --> 00:32:25,880 Ralph lil who was born in Alexander 576 00:32:35,530 --> 00:32:30,580 County on a small hillside farm in 1909 577 00:32:40,150 --> 00:32:35,540 he ran for Congress and 1948 and lost by 578 00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:40,160 a few thousand votes at the time Jim 579 00:32:47,490 --> 00:32:44,240 Allen and I were there Ralph operated 580 00:32:52,390 --> 00:32:47,500 the outer space rock shop Museum on 581 00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:52,400 Highway 181 just outside Morganton sort 582 00:32:59,260 --> 00:32:54,640 of hanging over the edge of a cliff as 583 00:33:01,180 --> 00:32:59,270 you turned a bend in the road it is 584 00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:01,190 pretty much up against a good viewing 585 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:03,200 point where people go to see the lights 586 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:05,690 there was a small gravel parking lot off 587 00:33:08,409 --> 00:33:06,330 the wine 588 00:33:12,019 --> 00:33:08,419 the road that led to his rather rundown 589 00:33:15,769 --> 00:33:12,029 establishment which was more homespun 590 00:33:17,870 --> 00:33:15,779 than fancy he only had a few items to 591 00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:17,880 sell in the store soda pop and glass 592 00:33:23,649 --> 00:33:20,880 bottles some chips and beef jerky that 593 00:33:26,450 --> 00:33:23,659 was homemade and not in packages 594 00:33:28,639 --> 00:33:26,460 he had a small sign that said Brown 595 00:33:32,509 --> 00:33:28,649 Mountain lights Museum and he was a nice 596 00:33:34,850 --> 00:33:32,519 friendly Mountaineer maybe he wasn't as 597 00:33:37,789 --> 00:33:34,860 slick as the city folk who came to visit 598 00:33:42,019 --> 00:33:37,799 but was certainly a rustic entrepreneur 599 00:33:43,820 --> 00:33:42,029 if there ever was one if you ask him 600 00:33:45,639 --> 00:33:43,830 about the Brown Mountain lights he could 601 00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:45,649 chew your ear off spending all afternoon 602 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:48,240 talking about them though he would 603 00:33:53,870 --> 00:33:50,250 appreciate it if you also bought a copy 604 00:33:56,750 --> 00:33:53,880 of his small personally autographed 75 605 00:33:58,610 --> 00:33:56,760 cent booklet on the subject and when you 606 00:34:01,580 --> 00:33:58,620 were finished chatting you might pull 607 00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:01,590 back on to the blacktop mountain road a 608 00:34:07,970 --> 00:34:04,769 bit more bewildered than when you first 609 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:07,980 shook hands with him most of the stories 610 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:10,290 he told including those things he 611 00:34:15,290 --> 00:34:13,050 experienced firsthand seemed a bit 612 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:15,300 far-fetched but they were certainly 613 00:34:20,540 --> 00:34:17,970 entertaining good old Ralph would claim 614 00:34:22,579 --> 00:34:20,550 that he went into the mountains and had 615 00:34:26,839 --> 00:34:22,589 contact with these intelligent beings 616 00:34:28,909 --> 00:34:26,849 that were the source of the lights lil 617 00:34:31,490 --> 00:34:28,919 claims not only to have seen the lights 618 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:31,500 up close but to have communicated with 619 00:34:38,030 --> 00:34:35,450 them on numerous occasions as well 620 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:38,040 deciding that the only way to uncover 621 00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:39,690 the source of these lights was to go 622 00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:45,359 into the almost impassable mountain area 623 00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:48,720 itself lell started his own 624 00:34:55,609 --> 00:34:52,800 investigation shortly after midnight he 625 00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:55,619 got within 100 feet of a light that had 626 00:35:02,810 --> 00:34:59,839 risen up from a large hole in the ground 627 00:35:05,890 --> 00:35:02,820 within 10 or 15 minutes the first light 628 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:05,900 had been joined by as many as 20 more 629 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:08,730 shortly after they all took off into the 630 00:35:15,620 --> 00:35:11,690 timber and disappeared from Wales view a 631 00:35:17,390 --> 00:35:15,630 half hour later others began popping up 632 00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:17,400 along the mountainside in the smaller 633 00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:19,710 valley below 634 00:35:27,970 --> 00:35:23,280 one came so close within ten feet that 635 00:35:34,730 --> 00:35:31,940 several expeditions and months later 636 00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:34,740 well discovered that by asking the 637 00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:37,920 lights questions they would answer by 638 00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:41,280 either moving up and down for yes or 639 00:35:47,930 --> 00:35:45,839 back and forth for gnome and after this 640 00:35:52,460 --> 00:35:47,940 form of communicating had been 641 00:35:58,089 --> 00:35:52,470 established one of the lights led Ralph 642 00:36:04,040 --> 00:35:58,099 to a door which leads inside of Brown 643 00:36:06,410 --> 00:36:04,050 Mountain now I know you want me to 644 00:36:09,410 --> 00:36:06,420 continue reading this and telling you 645 00:36:14,510 --> 00:36:09,420 what the hell he saw inside Brown 646 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:14,520 Mountain but you might know that answer 647 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:16,050 but if not I don't want to spoil 648 00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:20,010 anything it's pretty extreme and amazing 649 00:36:25,339 --> 00:36:22,710 and unbelievable what he claims that he 650 00:36:29,180 --> 00:36:25,349 saw when the lights led him inside a 651 00:36:32,359 --> 00:36:29,190 Brown Mountain and Tim lays it all out 652 00:36:37,940 --> 00:36:32,369 here and explains everything 653 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:37,950 and then that chapter is followed by the 654 00:36:44,780 --> 00:36:40,410 chapter that I contributed which is a 655 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:44,790 Brown Mountain lights viewing guide also 656 00:36:51,170 --> 00:36:48,810 of note I told you this book has a lot 657 00:36:55,849 --> 00:36:51,180 of illustrations and photographs in it 658 00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:55,859 and one of them is a clipping from the 659 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:00,000 Asheville Citizen Times actually it's 660 00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:05,010 made in the Asheville Tribune from 661 00:37:12,589 --> 00:37:08,880 September 7 2013 couple attacked by 662 00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:12,599 Brown Mountain lights I'll read you some 663 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:15,089 of it I did because I I'd forgotten 664 00:37:22,060 --> 00:37:18,170 about this but this was in the media 665 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:22,070 in Asheville a North Carolina couple who 666 00:37:25,930 --> 00:37:24,050 went to see the Brown Mountain lights on 667 00:37:28,060 --> 00:37:25,940 Friday night got a lot more than they 668 00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:28,070 bargained for the couple said they 669 00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:30,800 pulled over at a look off their friends 670 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:32,630 told them about and sat there for about 671 00:37:37,780 --> 00:37:35,330 two hours before they saw lights over a 672 00:37:42,070 --> 00:37:37,790 ridge several hundred yards to their 673 00:37:44,110 --> 00:37:42,080 West then this is where it gets strange 674 00:37:46,450 --> 00:37:44,120 the couple told the local sheriff's 675 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:46,460 department that a UFO craft came over 676 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:48,050 the ridge and bumped the top of the 677 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:50,930 couple's car several times at one point 678 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:52,970 the couple said the UFO was holding the 679 00:37:59,500 --> 00:37:57,050 couple's car to the ground even though 680 00:38:02,530 --> 00:37:59,510 the man was attempting to back the car 681 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:02,540 up and get away the couple said the UFO 682 00:38:07,450 --> 00:38:05,570 at one point hit the back top of their 683 00:38:09,970 --> 00:38:07,460 car so hard that it broke the back 684 00:38:12,730 --> 00:38:09,980 window of the car and crushed the car 685 00:38:14,020 --> 00:38:12,740 down about eight inches the local 686 00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:14,030 sheriff's department said this was the 687 00:38:17,770 --> 00:38:16,730 first attack of this kind related to the 688 00:38:20,860 --> 00:38:17,780 Brown Mountain lights 689 00:38:23,710 --> 00:38:20,870 a spokesperson Mildred rivers said the 690 00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:23,720 car received extensive extensive damage 691 00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:26,510 that's pretty pretty weird isn't it and 692 00:38:30,910 --> 00:38:29,150 and so the caption to that clipping is 693 00:38:32,620 --> 00:38:30,920 don't be frightened the lights can't 694 00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:32,630 harm you although this newspaper 695 00:38:40,210 --> 00:38:37,520 clipping seems to disprove that and this 696 00:38:42,070 --> 00:38:40,220 whole phenomenon it takes on so many 697 00:38:44,590 --> 00:38:42,080 different dimensions and I have talked 698 00:38:49,090 --> 00:38:44,600 to people in person who claim they've 699 00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:49,100 been chased by these lights and a lot of 700 00:38:59,230 --> 00:38:52,160 people say the whole alien aspect of 701 00:39:02,110 --> 00:38:59,240 this is either the cause of it or 702 00:39:04,270 --> 00:39:02,120 they're just attracted they're just 703 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:04,280 attracted to a place on earth and has 704 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:07,330 this kind of natural energy who knows 705 00:39:14,770 --> 00:39:10,970 but you know of course in Asheville 706 00:39:18,820 --> 00:39:14,780 North Carolina which is an hour away 707 00:39:21,340 --> 00:39:18,830 from the Brown Mountain area I have my 708 00:39:24,670 --> 00:39:21,350 Asheville Mystery Museum and the haunted 709 00:39:27,550 --> 00:39:24,680 Asheville ghost stores and when you 710 00:39:30,610 --> 00:39:27,560 descend the steps into the basement of 711 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:30,620 the Asheville Masonic Temple to go into 712 00:39:36,730 --> 00:39:31,610 my mystery muse 713 00:39:38,620 --> 00:39:36,740 him in an old historic building one of 714 00:39:42,010 --> 00:39:38,630 the things that you will see is the 715 00:39:46,570 --> 00:39:42,020 world's only actual reproduction of 716 00:39:49,180 --> 00:39:46,580 Ralph's lilz alien mummy that he would 717 00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:49,190 keep there on display and show you for a 718 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:51,110 couple of bucks and the whole story 719 00:39:55,690 --> 00:39:53,930 behind the alien mummy is you know again 720 00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:55,700 it's one of those weird long ones but 721 00:40:02,980 --> 00:40:01,040 but basically Lauren my wife as you may 722 00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:02,990 or may not know is an extremely talented 723 00:40:09,730 --> 00:40:06,080 artist and she's great at any type of 724 00:40:14,350 --> 00:40:09,740 craft and sculpture and so Lauren 725 00:40:17,620 --> 00:40:14,360 actually created using I think there's 726 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:17,630 only two I think there are two 727 00:40:22,330 --> 00:40:19,850 photographs that exist of Raphael's 728 00:40:24,670 --> 00:40:22,340 alien mummy she used those two 729 00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:24,680 photographs to reproduce that alien 730 00:40:29,170 --> 00:40:27,560 mummy and it's it's the only one in the 731 00:40:31,690 --> 00:40:29,180 world and so if you go to haunted 732 00:40:33,820 --> 00:40:31,700 Asheville calm and you could take one of 733 00:40:38,130 --> 00:40:33,830 our tours which run year-round 734 00:40:42,850 --> 00:40:38,140 rain or shine even in blizzards floods 735 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:42,860 hurricanes earthquakes tsunamis I'm not 736 00:40:47,860 --> 00:40:45,530 joking like we pride ourselves and 737 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:47,870 saying we always run regardless of 738 00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:48,410 weather 739 00:40:55,630 --> 00:40:52,060 you just have to dress appropriately 740 00:40:57,340 --> 00:40:55,640 bring an umbrella if you need to we have 741 00:40:59,550 --> 00:40:57,350 pictures of guides taking people from 742 00:41:04,300 --> 00:40:59,560 Florida on the tour when the snow is 743 00:41:07,690 --> 00:41:04,310 higher than their knees so they're very 744 00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:07,700 popular but you go down into the 745 00:41:14,740 --> 00:41:09,680 basement and you'll get to see Rafael's 746 00:41:17,590 --> 00:41:14,750 alien mummy there and this is the kind 747 00:41:20,980 --> 00:41:17,600 of stuff like the really weird obscure 748 00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:20,990 amazing stuff that you get from this 749 00:41:25,870 --> 00:41:23,510 book and again you'd think that I just 750 00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:25,880 you know I'm making like a fortune off 751 00:41:30,190 --> 00:41:27,710 of this but I'm telling you I don't make 752 00:41:32,170 --> 00:41:30,200 one penny off this book I'm just telling 753 00:41:35,020 --> 00:41:32,180 you about it because it's so cool the 754 00:41:38,850 --> 00:41:35,030 last thing I want to read to you is the 755 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:38,860 table of contents so that you see the 756 00:41:52,910 --> 00:41:47,660 chapter one portals vortices and 757 00:41:55,580 --> 00:41:52,920 stargates by diane Tessman Chapter two 758 00:41:58,850 --> 00:41:55,590 visitors from the dead zone by Brent 759 00:42:02,540 --> 00:41:58,860 rands chapter three venturing onto 760 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:02,550 sacred ground my own portal by Timothy 761 00:42:09,110 --> 00:42:05,810 green Beckley number four the four 762 00:42:14,060 --> 00:42:09,120 vortexes of Sedona by Timothy green 763 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:14,070 Beckley Chapter five Tom dango and the 764 00:42:21,020 --> 00:42:17,370 tall blue man that's by Timothy green 765 00:42:23,690 --> 00:42:21,030 Beckley and Tom dango chapter 6 the 766 00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:23,700 Bradshaw ranch a portal of phenomenal 767 00:42:30,290 --> 00:42:27,200 dimensions that's by Linda Bradshaw 768 00:42:33,380 --> 00:42:30,300 chapter seven the nineteen point system 769 00:42:35,450 --> 00:42:33,390 by Tom dango chapter eight the ranch on 770 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:35,460 the edge of forever by William H 771 00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:38,970 Hamilton the third chapter nine vortexes 772 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:41,910 at play synchronicities and the possible 773 00:42:49,250 --> 00:42:45,690 healing by Timothy green Beckley chapter 774 00:42:51,590 --> 00:42:49,260 ten it's not a vise to have a UFO 775 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:51,600 sighting in Sedona by Timothy green 776 00:42:59,660 --> 00:42:56,810 Beckley chapter 11 UFO history in the 777 00:43:03,200 --> 00:42:59,670 winter basin I guess that's what that is 778 00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:03,210 by Timothy green Beckley Chapter twelve 779 00:43:10,070 --> 00:43:06,240 skinwalkers and shapes shapeshifters the 780 00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:10,080 who what and where by hmm The 781 00:43:17,570 --> 00:43:14,160 Whistleblower chapter thirteen your 782 00:43:21,050 --> 00:43:17,580 unwelcome at skinwalker ranch by Shawn 783 00:43:23,870 --> 00:43:21,060 Castile chapter fourteen a filmmaker 784 00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:23,880 hunts for the skinwalker that is an 785 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:26,250 exclusive interview with producer Jeremy 786 00:43:31,580 --> 00:43:29,370 Korbel by David partridge chapter 787 00:43:36,050 --> 00:43:31,590 fifteen is an exclusive interview with 788 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:36,060 mr. skinwalker George Knapp also by 789 00:43:41,210 --> 00:43:39,090 David partridge chapter sixteen the lady 790 00:43:44,540 --> 00:43:41,220 and the skinwalker by Timothy green 791 00:43:46,970 --> 00:43:44,550 Beckley chapter seventeen shape shifters 792 00:43:49,010 --> 00:43:46,980 werewolves tricksters monsters and much 793 00:43:50,510 --> 00:43:49,020 more by Nick Redfern 794 00:43:52,730 --> 00:43:50,520 he's another great friend of mine you've 795 00:43:55,690 --> 00:43:52,740 heard me talk about Nick Redfern many 796 00:43:58,300 --> 00:43:55,700 times chapter 18 797 00:44:00,810 --> 00:43:58,310 the San Luis Valley more than your 798 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:00,820 average hot spot by Shawn Castile 799 00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:03,770 chapter 19 hot spots in the San Luis 800 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:07,609 Valley by Chris O'Brien chapter 20 the 801 00:44:15,460 --> 00:44:11,210 UFO data acquisition project by Timothy 802 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:15,470 green Beckley chapter 21 fireballs black 803 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:18,170 choppers faceless phantoms and legends 804 00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:22,130 of which mountain by Brent rains chapter 805 00:44:27,970 --> 00:44:24,710 22 multiple phenomena at a Colorado 806 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:27,980 ranch by dr. John dare and dr. Leo 807 00:44:36,460 --> 00:44:32,930 sprinkle chapter 23 touched down in Pine 808 00:44:39,130 --> 00:44:36,470 Bush Yakima's nocturnal lights and black 809 00:44:42,910 --> 00:44:39,140 dogs on mount misery by Timothy green 810 00:44:44,859 --> 00:44:42,920 Beckley chapter 24 fireballs ghost 811 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:44,869 lights and all sorts of anomalous 812 00:44:52,180 --> 00:44:47,770 phenomena by Timothy green Bentley 813 00:44:56,410 --> 00:44:52,190 chapter 25 dr. J Allen Hynek and 814 00:45:00,430 --> 00:44:56,420 Norway's mysterious lights by Timothy 815 00:45:05,020 --> 00:45:00,440 green Beckley chapter 26 tripping the 816 00:45:08,380 --> 00:45:05,030 light fantastic by Erica Luke's chapter 817 00:45:12,250 --> 00:45:08,390 27 giant crystals and the mummified 818 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:12,260 ma'am by Timothy green Beckley chapter 819 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:15,290 28 the Brown Mountain lights viewing 820 00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:17,810 guide by yours truly 821 00:45:25,059 --> 00:45:22,160 Joshua P Warren chapter 29 the New 822 00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:25,069 England triangle by Timothy green 823 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:29,599 Beckley chapter 30 some call it the 824 00:45:37,660 --> 00:45:34,010 thing by Timothy green Beckley chapter 825 00:45:43,059 --> 00:45:37,670 31 ad juntas a Puerto Rican gate to the 826 00:45:46,270 --> 00:45:43,069 unknown by Scott Corrales chapter 32 827 00:45:48,059 --> 00:45:46,280 what happened on June 28th of nineteen 828 00:45:52,690 --> 00:45:48,069 II 829 00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:52,700 that's by Albert Ezra solace and lastly 830 00:46:03,940 --> 00:45:58,970 we have chapter 33 deja vu till the end 831 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:03,950 of time the June 24th Kenneth Arnold 832 00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:07,810 enigma by Timothy green 833 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:15,250 Beckley whoa what a book guys what a 834 00:46:19,740 --> 00:46:17,290 book you know I'm I'm practically out of 835 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:19,750 breath my arms are also tired from 836 00:46:25,470 --> 00:46:22,930 holding this thing for about an hour 837 00:46:27,930 --> 00:46:25,480 seriously because I when I do this 838 00:46:29,970 --> 00:46:27,940 podcast I like to stand up and sort of 839 00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:29,980 pace around and that's how I've been 840 00:46:36,180 --> 00:46:32,710 doing this and you know my arms are 841 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:36,190 tired from holding this thing anyway go 842 00:46:42,510 --> 00:46:38,650 to Amazon get the paperback version it's 843 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:42,520 a big old giant thick book for $21.95 844 00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:47,170 Kindle for $9.99 I'll put a link up 845 00:46:55,860 --> 00:46:51,760 there for you at Joshua P Warren on 846 00:46:59,250 --> 00:46:55,870 Twitter at Joshua P Warren and a 847 00:47:01,380 --> 00:46:59,260 Facebook link for you as well where if 848 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:01,390 you have any problems just email me you 849 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:02,770 know you can go to Joshua P Warren 850 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:06,090 common I will point you in the right 851 00:47:16,140 --> 00:47:11,890 direction man what a great way to start 852 00:47:18,180 --> 00:47:16,150 off 2020 huh I mean I love that it's not 853 00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:18,190 just nuts and bolts because we know it's